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Simple Queues and the Queue Tree

Learn RouterOS simple queues: target, max-limit upload and download, priority, burst, queue types, and how a simple queue interacts with a queue tree.

  • 5 min
In a nutshell
  • A simple queue is created in /queue simple and is converted to HTB automatically.
  • target selects the traffic, and max-limit is written as upload then download.
  • The queue setting also uses upload type then download type.

What it is

A simple queue limits the bandwidth of a host, a network or an interface with one rule.

Behind the scenes RouterOS turns each simple queue into HTB queues, so the same ideas apply. You do not need mangle rules or a manual tree. You say who the queue applies to, and set the limits.

Targethost or networkSimple queueupload and download limitsHTBbuilt automaticallyTrafficshaped both ways

Simple queues are in /queue simple. They are the quickest way to limit one customer or one subnet.

How it works

One simple queue covers both directions of traffic for its target.

Target and limits

The target says who the queue applies to. It can be an address, a network or an interface. The max-limit takes two values, upload first and download second.

/queue simple add name=client1 target=192.168.88.10/32 max-limit=2M/10M
/queue simple add name=lan-total target=192.168.88.0/24 max-limit=20M/50M

In the first rule the client may upload at up to 2M and download at up to 10M. Upload is traffic sent by the target, and download is traffic sent to it. Other settings use the same upload then download pairing, such as limit-at, burst-limit, burst-threshold and burst-time.

Other useful settings

SettingPurpose
limit-atThe guaranteed rate, as upload and download values
priorityA number from 1 to 8, with 1 the highest
burst-limit, burst-threshold, burst-timeBurst behaviour as on the previous page
queueThe queue types, upload type first and download type second
parentAnother simple queue that becomes this queue's parent
packet-marksMatch traffic with packet marks from mangle
dstLimit traffic to a given destination

The queue setting takes two queue types separated by a slash, for example pcq-up/pcq-down. This is how a single simple queue can use PCQ to share the rate between many hosts.

Hierarchy with parent

Simple queues can be nested. A child names a parent simple queue, and takes bandwidth from the parent under the same HTB rules.

/queue simple add name=office target=192.168.88.0/24 max-limit=20M/50M
/queue simple add name=boss target=192.168.88.5/32 parent=office limit-at=2M/5M max-limit=10M/20M priority=1
Parent queueoffice 20M and 50MChild queueboss, guaranteed rateOther hostsshare what remains

Order of the rules

Simple queues are read from top to bottom, like firewall rules. A packet is handled by the first simple queue it matches. A broad rule placed above a specific one hides the specific one, so place specific queues first.

Simple queue and queue tree together

Both can be used on the same router at the same time. A packet may then match a simple queue and a queue tree. Each is attached at its own point in the packet flow, so do not rely on a fixed order between them.

Both queues then limit the same packet, so the lower limit wins. If your simple queue allows 10M and your tree leaf allows 5M, the traffic is held to 5M.

FeatureSimple queueQueue tree
Needs mangle marksNo, it matches by targetYes, it matches by packet mark
DirectionBoth directions in one ruleOne direction per queue
ControlEasy, less flexibleDetailed, more flexible
StructureOptional parent simple queuesFull tree with an interface or global parent
Simple queueone limitPacketheld to the lower limitQueue treeanother limit

Because the limits stack, it is a good habit not to put the same traffic in both unless you have a clear reason. A common clean design uses simple queues for per customer limits and a queue tree for priority between traffic types.

Watch out

If a connection is slower than you configured, look for a second queue that also matches it. The lowest limit along the path wins.

Fasttrack and marks

Fasttracked connections bypass simple queues, so a simple queue may show no traffic for them. Packet marks used in packet-marks must exist before the queue sees the packet, as for the queue tree.

What to remember for the exam

Eight facts cover most questions on this topic.

  • A simple queue is created in /queue simple and is converted to HTB automatically.
  • target selects the traffic, and max-limit is written as upload then download.
  • The queue setting also uses upload type then download type.
  • Simple queues are read in order, and the first match handles the packet.
  • A child queue uses parent to take bandwidth from another simple queue.
  • A packet can match both a simple queue and a queue tree.
  • The two limits stack, so neither can be exceeded.
  • The lower of the two limits decides the final speed.
Exam tip

To limit each user in a network equally, use one simple queue for the network with a PCQ type for upload and download.

Common mistakes

These four mistakes appear often.

Swapping upload and download. The first value is upload and the second is download.

Placing a general queue above a specific one. The specific queue never matches.

Counting the same traffic twice. A queue tree rule and a simple queue both limit it, and the lowest limit wins.

Forgetting fasttrack. Simple queues do not see fasttracked traffic.

Check yourself

Work through these three questions.

  • In max-limit=2M/10M, which value is the download limit?

    The second value, 10M, because upload comes first and download second.

  • Why can a host be slower than its simple queue allows?

    A queue tree leaf may also match its traffic, and the lower of the two limits wins.

  • What speed applies if a simple queue allows 10M and a queue tree leaf allows 5M?

    The traffic is held to 5M, because the lower limit wins.

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